"\u003Cdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-center\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp3.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002F82c0aa9e71b24940b4b3e0d0568a5354\" img_width=\"764\" img_height=\"587\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E7月4日，中國商務部新聞發言人高峯在商務部舉行的新聞發佈會上表示，只要雙方按照兩國元首確定的原則和方向，在平等互利的基礎上拓展合作，在相互尊重的基礎上管控分歧，就能夠實現互利共贏發展。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EOn July 4, China's Ministry of Commerce (MOC) spokesperson Feng Gao stated at the press conference held by the Ministry of Commerce that as long as both parties abide by the principles and directions agreed upon by the two heads of state, extend collaboration on the basis of equality and mutual benefit, and manage differences on the basis of mutual respect, both countries can achieve mutual benefit and win-win results.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E高峯指出，中美兩國元首成功會晤，“爲下一階段中美經貿關係發展指明瞭方向……這再次說明，發展良好的中美經貿關係是兩國的民心所向，也是國際社會的普遍期待”。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EFeng Gao pointed out that the successful meeting between the heads of state of China and the United States \"demonstrates the development trend of China-US economic and trade relations for the next stage... This again indicates that the sound development of China-US economic and trade relations is aspired by the people of the two nations and commonly expected by the global community.\"\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E另據路透社報道，特朗普政府官員上週表示，美國和中國的高級代表正爲重啓談判進行安排。在經歷了一年多的緊張對峙之後，中美貿易談判的態勢正向着積極的一面發展。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EAccording to Reuters, Trump administration officials stated last week that senior representatives of the United States and China had been making arrangements to restart negotiations. After the intense stand off for over a year, the US-China trade negotiations are trending positively.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E其實對於美方發起的貿易戰，中國早就表明態度：不願打，但也不怕打，必要時不得不打。澳大利亞前總理陸克文在上個月發表文章稱，若想達成協議，主要就看特朗普怎麼做了。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EIn fact, with regard to the trade war initiated by the United States, China has long indicated its position: not wanting a trade war, not being afraid of one, and having to fight one when necessary. Former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd published an article last month, stating that whether the two sides would reach an agreement depends on Trump's actions.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E“中方接連發出反擊美國的廣泛言論，是我30年來未曾見過的。這些舉動傳遞的信息清晰明確：過去5000年來外界對中國發起很多攻擊，但我們中國人總是戰勝困難最終勝出。”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\"The Chinese government has repeatedly emphasized its position to strike back against the United States, which is something I have never seen in the past 30 years. These moves convey a clear message: the world has attacked China plenty of times in the past 5,000 years, yet the Chinese always managed to overcome obstacles and win eventually.\"\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp1.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002Fd9a0e02baef1411d8c850914aceb82cc\" img_width=\"1080\" img_height=\"606\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-center\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E陸克文指出，中國在政策層面算過了，若貿易戰全面爆發，每年經濟增長率會減少1.4個百分點。爲確保增長保持在6%以上，中國已準備好財政、貨幣和基礎設施投資等全面措施。今年4月，陸克文在接受艾問獨家專訪時表示，貿易談判肯定會達成協議，兩個國家都需要這方面的協議。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd claimed that China has done its homework in terms of policies. If the trade war breaks out thoroughly, the annual economic growth of China will decrease by 1.4%. To maintain a growth rate of above 6%, China has prepared comprehensive measures including fiscal and monetary policies as well as investments in infrastructures. In April this year, Kevin Rudd said in an exclusive interview with iAsk that the trade negotiations will definitely come to an agreement, since both countries need an agreement in this regard.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E這場貿易戰很快會有個結果嗎？本期《艾問頂級人物》，艾問創始人艾誠對話澳大利亞前總理陸克文。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EWill this trade war conclude soon? In this issue of \"iAsk Top Leaders\", iAsk Founder Gloria Ai spoke with former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E中美一定會達成協議？\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003EWill China and the United States definitely reach an agreement?\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E在哈佛的查爾斯酒店大堂，陸克文很自然地用中文和我們交流起來。2014年初，陸克文舉家離開澳大利亞，之後他和妻子出售了自己在布里斯班的老宅，被聘請爲哈佛肯尼迪學院的高級研究員，同時兼任美國亞洲協會政策研究所所長。中美關係一直是他研究的課題之一。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EAt the lobby of the Charles Hotel in Harvard Square, Kevin Rudd spoke with us in fluent Chinese. At the beginning of 2014, Kevin Rudd left Australia with his family and later sold his house in Brisbane with his wife. He was hired as Senior Fellow by Harvard Kennedy School and also served as President of the Asia Society Policy Institute (ASPI). China-US relations have always been one of his research topics.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E艾誠：\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E不管是通過哈佛肯尼迪的研究，還是在亞洲協會的研究，您都企圖搞清楚中美之間到底在發生着什麼，以及我們每個人能務實地做什麼，找到答案了嗎？\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EGloria Ai: Whether through conducting research at Harvard Kennedy School or at Asia Society Policy Institute, you have been trying to figure out what is happening between China and the United States, and what action each of us can take. Have you found the answer?\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp1.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002F0f5ec22490024fb5b8e292e4a429c216\" img_width=\"1080\" img_height=\"604\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-center\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E陸克文：\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E我認爲兩件事是比較重要的。第一是達成貿易協議之後，雙邊從那一天應該開始利用政治的好氣氛，來改善雙邊關係中其他的領域。第二點，是在經濟方面接觸，利用金融改革的可能性，來邀請美國的金融機構參與中國國內的金融市場。與此同時，中國的公司應該也參與美國的市場，用這些經濟方面的橋樑，能夠鞏固雙邊關係未來的穩定性。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd: I think two aspects are crucial. Firstly, after the trade agreement is reached, both parties should start taking advantage of the friendly political atmosphere from that day on to improve bilateral relations in other fields. Secondly, the two sides should collaborate economically by leveraging the possibility of the financial reform and inviting US financial institutions to play a role in China's domestic financial market. In the meantime, Chinese enterprises should also participate in the US market. With economic connections, the future of bilateral relations can be steadier.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E艾誠：\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E您曾經說過，2018年是中美關係的一個非常巨大的轉折點，因爲美國對中國的戰略政策發生了改變，原來的那一套方法行不通了。從您的角度觀察，中國和美國最大的分歧在哪裏？又如何解決呢？\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EGloria Ai: You said before that the year 2018 was a major turning point for China-US relations, in that the US strategic policy toward China changed and the previous approach did not work. From your perspective, where is the biggest divergence between China and the United States? How to solve it?\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp1.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002F5059f24629914b2d8b748fc790ef80a3\" img_width=\"1080\" img_height=\"820\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E陸克文：\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E第一，貿易方面的關係還是很重要。貿易談判仍然繼續下去，我的預測和判斷是什麼呢，肯定達成協議。兩個國家需要這方面的協議，中國國內的宏觀經濟有這方面的需要，老美差不多了，總的來講，我認爲協議達成的可能性是比較肯定的。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd: First of all, trade relations are still essential. Trade talks are ongoing. As for my predictions and insights, the two parties will definitely reach an agreement. The two countries need such an agreement. China needs it for the domestic macro economy, so does America. Overall, I think it's fairly certain that an agreement will be reached between the two.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E第二，投資方面的。我發現最近這方面雙邊的障礙過多了，如果未來要搞好中美關係的話，雙邊的投資額應該變成規模很大的一方面。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003ESecondly, in terms of investments, I noticed that there have been excessive bilateral obstacles. If both sides are to enhance China-US relations in the future, bilateral investment amount should be substantial.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp3.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002Ff5558631631f42c19574e3d005ea1593\" img_width=\"1178\" img_height=\"665\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E第三，金融方面的合作。最近一年中國政府也執行了不少金融改革政策，也鼓勵老外去參與，不僅是股票市場，也包括債務市場。那麼其他金融市場的可能性，包括來自全球的金融公司在中國國內的活動，這方面的合作我也認爲是比較重要的。這三方面的合作應當形成新的好故事，新的中美關係的好故事。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EThirdly, regarding financial cooperation, in the past year, the Chinese government has implemented plenty of financial reform policies and encouraged foreigners to participate, not only in the stock market, but also in the debt market. As for cooperating on other financial markets, such as global financial institutions' activities in China, it's also of great importance in my opinion. The collaboration on the three abovementioned fields should lead to a new good story of China-US relations.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E澳大利亞政府喜歡“拍老美馬屁”？\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003EThe Australian government enjoys \"fawning on the Americans\"?\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E2018年8月，澳大利亞政府以國家安全擔憂爲由，禁止華爲和中興爲其規劃中的5G移動網絡供應設備。今年4月，據路透社報道，中國已在世界貿易組織對澳大利亞提出申訴，控告澳大利亞對中國5G電信技術的限制“明顯帶有歧視性”。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EIn August 2018, the Australian government banned Huawei and ZTE from providing equipment for the 5G network under planning due to concerns over national security. In April this year, according to Reuters, China filed a complaint against Australia to the World Trade Organization (WTO), accusing Australia of its \"obviously discriminative\" restrictions on China's 5G technology.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E艾誠：\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E在您離開政壇之後，我們看到中澳兩國的關係還是有一些摩擦的，您會如何解讀這種摩擦？\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EGloria Ai: After you resigned from politics, we've seen some conflicts between China and Australia. How would you interpret such conflicts?\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cstrong\u003E陸克文：\u003C\u002Fstrong\u003E我當總理的時候，我們能夠協調不同的觀點，以及重視我們共同的利益、共同的價值觀，在氣候變化，雙邊經濟關係，投資方面的合作等等。總的來講，當時我們的雙邊關係是比較健康。後來澳大利亞的保守黨政府，怎麼說呢，他們特別喜歡跟老美拍馬屁，因此也影響到澳中雙邊關係的氣氛。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd: When I served as Prime Minister, we were able to accommodate various perspectives and appreciate our common interests, shared values as well as collaboration on climate change, bilateral economic relations, investment and so on. In general, our bilateral relationship was relatively sound at the time. Later on, the Australian Conservatives somehow really enjoy fawning on the Americans, which also affects Australia-China relations.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp1.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002Facdd48a40bc44720937e7c73d53c23fc\" img_width=\"1400\" img_height=\"1025\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E陸克文曾在自傳中指出，100多年來，華人對澳大利亞經濟、文化、社會發揮了獨一無二的作用，受到全澳民衆的普遍歡迎，他一直積極支持華人在當地的發展。“不僅現在，昨天，而且在未來，我都會非常積極地支持。”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd mentioned in his biography that for more than 100 years, Chinese people have played a unique role in the Australian economy, culture, and society, whom are widely welcomed by the people of Australia. Kevin Rudd has been actively supporting the local development of Chinese people in Australia. \"Regardless of the present, the past, or the future, I will always be proactively supportive.\"\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E陸克文說，在他從小生長的地方，從來沒有華人。母親雖然只是小學畢業，卻對世界充滿好奇。13歲時，母親給了他一張報紙，上面報道了中國重返聯合國的消息。母親對他說，中國的未來很重要，中國將來對澳大利亞來說很重要。一年後，澳大利亞時任總理高夫·惠特拉姆訪華，與中國建立了外交關係。受這些因素的影響，高中畢業後，陸克文進入澳大利亞國立大學學習漢語，從此與中國結下不解之緣。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd said that there were no Chinese people where he grew up. Even though his mother only went to elementary school, she was curious about the world. When he was 13, his mother showed him the news coverage on newspaper that China returned to the United Nations. The mother told him that China's future was vital and that China would be crucial to Australia in the future. A year later, Former Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam visited China and established diplomatic relations with China. Under such influences, after graduating from high school, Kevin Rudd went to the Australian National University to study Chinese. Since then, he has established a deep bond with China.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E陸克文說，他和太太1984年曾因外交工作搬到北京生活。如今他們又生活在紐約，對於中美關係的研究始終是他所關切的。“這應該是全世界最迫切的雙邊關係。”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EKevin Rudd said that he and his wife moved to Beijing in 1984 due to diplomatic duties. Now they live in New York. He has always been focusing on the research on China-US relations. \"This should be the most pressing bilateral relation in the world.\"\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp1.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002Feb5adf7439744377afaed63efd2cd55f\" img_width=\"1080\" img_height=\"611\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-center\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E在經歷了政治生涯的跌宕起伏後，陸克文堅定地選擇離開。現在，他自認是一個純粹的學者，做中美關係的研究，爲決策者解讀政策，成爲一道溝通的橋樑。他說自己是國際公民，不遺餘力地呼籲各國重視氣候變化，奔走於全球未來戰略的穩定性。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EAfter experiencing the ups and downs in his political career, Kevin Rudd firmly decided to quit. Nowadays, he considers himself a pure scholar, working on the research on China-US relations, interpreting policies for decision makers, and becoming a bridge of communication. He claimed that he is a global citizen and that he would spare no effort to call on all countries to attach importance to climate change and to contribute to the stability of the future global strategy.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003E他更願意我們稱他爲“老陸”、“老幹部”，他希望能有更多人投身公衆事務，爲了多數人的福祉去努力奮鬥。\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-justify\"\u003EHe prefers that we call him \"Rudd\" and \"Lao Ganbu\". He hopes that more people will be devoted to the public affairs and strive for the well-being of the majority.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-center\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp3.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002F25a93939eeaf475db6e1b2a12b4f1fd5\" img_width=\"1400\" img_height=\"787\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003Cp class=\"ql-align-center\"\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\"pgc-img\"\u003E\u003Cimg src=\"http:\u002F\u002Fp1.pstatp.com\u002Flarge\u002Fpgc-image\u002F8b5d484806e54cb98110d938f3c35673\" img_width=\"1080\" img_height=\"1920\" alt=\"艾問陸克文：中美貿易談判一定會達成協議？| 艾問頂級人物\" inline=\"0\"\u003E\u003Cp class=\"pgc-img-caption\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E\u003C\u002Fdiv\u003E"'.slice(6, -6), groupId: '6716333287251378700